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to their neighbor's economies. chinese and south korean officials have already begun talks on a free trade deal between their countries. now negotiators involved in discussions for another free trade zone in the asia pacific say they hope to conclude an agreement by the end of next year. they're trying to strike a deal for what's known as the trance pacific partnership or tpp. leaders of seven of the 11 countries discussing the u.s. life led on the sidelines of the east asia summit. the negotiators wanted to conclude a deal by the end of this year, but they couldn't agree on how to elimite taffs and they're still divided on other issues such as whether they will allow exemptions to the rules. australian prime minister julia gilliard said an ambitious deadline would be to reach agreement by next oblt. the negotiators will meet again next month in new zealand. >>> january 1, 2013 marks more than just the new year. for americans it could be the beginning of simultaneous tax hikes and spending cuts. >> talking about t fiscal cliff and everyone is talking about it including the u.s. federal reserve
in washington, d.c. and an example of a dysfunctional process. that threatens our economy and millions of people across our economy. pete: is stalemate in washington stifling the economic recovery? joining us this thanksgiving week, peter baker of "the new york times." molly ball of "the atlantic." and jim tankersly of "national journal." >> award winning reporting and analysis. covering history as it happens. from our nationas capital, this is "washington week with gwen ifill." produced in association with "national journal." corporate funding for "washington week" is provided by -- >> we know why we're here. to chart a greener path in the air and in our factories. to find cleaner, more efficient ways to power flight. >> and harness our technology for new energy solutions. >> around the globe the people of boeing are working together. to build a better tomorrow. >> that's why we're here. >> this rock has never stood still. since 1875, we've been there for our clients through good times and bad. when their needs changed, we were there to meet them. through the years, from insurance to investment
on the economy. the washington post writes that the white house is ratcheting up pressure to avoid the fiscal cliff. on c-span tonight, we will bring you some of the house and senate debate from august of 2011, when congress passed the budget control act that triggered cuts to take effect on january 1. we will also hear from president obama, who signed the deficit reduction measure into law, part of the deal to raise the debt ceiling. first, senate majority leader harry reid and republican majority leader mitch mcconnell will talk on the senate floor about the january fiscal deadline. >> since our country voted to return president obama to the white house, i have spoken often about compromise. i remain optimistic that, when it comes to our economy, when it comes to protecting middle-class families from a whopping tax hike, republicans and democrats will be able to find common ground. president dwight eisenhower, a republican, once said, "people talk about the middle of the road as though it were unacceptable. there have to be compromises. the middle of the road is all usable space." so said w
newshour has been provided by: moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. and by the alfred p. sloan foundation. supporting science, technology, and improved economic performance and financial literacy in the 21st century. and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> brown: washington's struggle to avoid going off the "fiscal cliff" resumed in earnest today. the president moved to draw on his reelection victory for new clout with congress. the goal: a sweeping deficit agreement to avert $650 billion in spending cuts and tax increases at the start of 2013. from the white house came word that president obama will try to build public pressure on congress to raise taxes on the wealthy and prevent tax hikes for everyone else. white house spokesman jay carney. >> well, the president believes very strongly that the american people matter in this debate. because this debate is about t
economy. and correspondent steve brown kicks off our coverage tonight. >> and on thanksgiving thursday to be first in the doors at midnight on plaque friday. >> and the unofficial start of the holiday shopping season. >> we have our route. >> and toys "r" us, target, home goods. >> kohl's, breakfast. >> black friday is definitely the kickoff to the playoffs for us, if you think of it as a sporting event and it's a big day, we always want to come out really showing our guests what we have here and have a great start to the playoffs, yeah. >> and with retail sales a huge factor in the not steady u.s. economy, the shopping is encouraging. >> we expect sales to rise 4% this year, a little lower than last year, but you know, we think we really believe that consumers are feeling a lot more confident this year. >>, but for all the folks battling the black friday crowds, do they get the best prices. >> sometimes i think you can get a better deal other times, black friday is kind after gimmicky things. up to a third of the door busters items today were cheaper earlier in the year and as far as
that could very well damage the economy. but the air of compromise among some notable republicans is definitely grabbing attention. the republicans' comments quickly caught fire. >> i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country, only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> a pledge you signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for that congress. the world has changed and the economic situation is different. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. i made tennesseans aware, i was just elected, that the only thing i'm monitoring is the oath that i take when i serve when i'm sworn in this january. >> reporter: gop lawmakers bluntly stating to alert the fiscal cliff, they're ready to break from grover norquist and the pledge he's got most republicans to sign to never raise taxes. norquist waste nod time hitting back on cnn's s"starting point" >> it doesn't pass the laugh test. if you want to go to your voters and say, i promised you this and i'm breaking that problem, you can have that conversation with them. but you don't have an argument with me. you've made a c
for the biggest airports in the country. wait until you hear this one. could this have an impact on the economy? that nobody thought of. we will break it all down for you, more "money" coming up. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at this special time of year, they shine even brighter. come to the winter event and get the merces-nz you've always wished for, now for an exceptional price. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer lease a 2013 glk350 for $399 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. melissa: the service employees union is trying to disrupt one of the busiest travel days of the year at lax headquarters in l.a. or the 1000 protesters are out blocking traffic trying to prevent travelers from getting to the airport. people were told to allow an extra hour and a half to get there. an extra hour and half on top of all the hours were supposed to get there ahead of time. with me now for both sides of the debate. gentlemen, welcome to the debate. i will start with you because as we watched all the video today of protesters out the
about the german economy. suggests we may be heading into possibly contraction territory. expecting it to be around 99.5 versus 100. expectations entex is frft at 93.2, unchanged from the previous reading. not out yet. kathleen brooks is with us. i'm not sure why we don't have it but anyway, whatever your expectations are for this, how close is germ 234i going to skirt with contraction in the fourth quarter? >> it certainly has been slowing down and it looks like there's the possibility that even germany is starting to have some mild contraction and maybe even in the technical recession i would think over the next two quarters. the economic indicators have been coming down in determine any, there had been an expectation that consumption kicks up more in the country. which it has a little bit, but a little less than maybe people have been expecting. obviously the fallout from the international crisis and the backdrop is not really helping. >>. >> euro-dollar edging up to a three week high. growth numbers don't seem to mary ann awful lot to the traders. >> no. it's been able to shrug
the dangers of going over the fiscal cliff and what that means for our economy, that there's too much stubbornness in congress, that we can't even agree on giving middle-class families a tax cut, then middle-class families are all going to end up having a big tax hike. that's going to be a pretty rude shock for them, and i suspect will have a big impact on the holiday shopping season, which in turn will have an impact on business planning and hiring, and we can go back into a recession. >> sean: republicans hate big beared and santa claus. don't buy this hype, such as letting the bush cuts expire, are not the answer to tackling this deficit. in fact, during the 2012 fiscal year the federal government cost $9.7 billion to run each and every day, but the additional revenue from letting the bush tax cuts expire only amounts to around $82 billion a year, meaning the government would be funded for a whopping 8.5 days if in fact the president wins this fight. sadly the real reason we've reached this point is because our elected representatives simply have no idea how to stop spending your m
return to a normal economy that returns about 18.5%, that would increase revenue an additional over $400 billion per year, that's $750 billion of revenue per year through economic growth. and the president, his proposal would raise 1/10 of that but would put at risk the economic growth and that $750 billion. so -- >> sir, with all due respect, though -- >> counterproductive. >> that's an answer to the question. there's nothing you see over the next 35 days that would have you break that pledge with grover norquist? >> no, because raising taxes harms the economic growth. you get ten times the revenue by economic growth rather than punishing success. and, again, all of us are saying president obama, show us your plan for restraining the size of government, that's the main problem. again, his revenue proposal would raise $68 billion when we have over $1 trillion worth of deficit. where's the other $1 trillion in his balance plan? mr. president, show us your plan. >> sir, one thing, mitch mcconnell has said that revenue is on the table as long as entitlements would be on the table. conductin
>>> tonight, battleground america. the looming fiscal cliff and the fight to save the economy. in his first interview since the big romney loss, i will ask reince priebus if his party is out of touch with the country. plus his plans to fix the gop. >>> plus president obama's tax push. he wants the rich to pay up but is it fair? >>> and one of the most influential spiritual leaders in the world, america's pastor, rick warren. he was there at barack obama's first inauguration. will he be there again? we're talking politics, same sex marriage and the "two and a half men" star whose christian conversion has him attacking his own show. this is "piers morgan tonight." >>> good evening. our big story tonight, countdown to financial doomsday, the fiscal cliff and the clock is ticking. 35 days left before this massive sweeping tax hike. america's now at the mercy of washington, hoping that both sides can end the fighting and make a deal. anti-tax champion grover norquist last night told me he's keeping republicans to the no tax increase pledge they made decades ago. but should his part
by the federal open market committee to support the economy. in addition, i will discuss important economic challenges our country faces as we close out 2012 and move into 2013, in particular the challenge of putting federal government finances on a sustainable path and the longer run while avoiding actions that would endanger the economic recovery in the near term. the economy is continuing to recover from the financial crisis and recession, but the pace of the recovery has been slower than fomc participants and others had hoped or anticipated when i spoke here last, three years ago. indeed, since the recession trough in 2009, growth in real gdp has averaged only a little more than 2% per year. similarly, the job market has improved over the past three years, but at a slow pace. the unemployment rate, which peaked at 10% in the fall of 2009, has since come down 2%, to just below 8%. this is a welcome decline, but it has taken a long time to achieve the progress, and the unemployment level is still well above its level prior to the onset of the recession and the level that our colleagues an
. wait until you hear this one. could this have an impact on the economy? that nobody thought of. we will break it all down for you, more "money" coming up. hey, yo, check out is chef, right? right? that's so gay. that's really gay. dude, look at those pants. please don't say that. what? don't say that something is gay when you mean that something is dumb or stupid. it's insulting. it's like if i thought this pepper shaker was stupid, and i said, "man, this pepper shaker is so 16-year-old boy with a cheesy mustache." just saying. melissa: the service employees union is trying to disrupt one of the busiest travel days of the year at laheadquarters in l.a. or the 1000 protesters are out blocking traffic trying to prevent travelers from getting to the airport. people were told to allow an extra hour and a half to get there. an extra hour and half on top of althe hours were supposed to get there ahead of time. with me now for both sides of the debate. gentlemen, welcome to the debate. i will start with you because as we watched all the video today of protesters out there trying to wreck
this drags on, the uncertainty continues to hurt the economy and continues to undermine markets. >> james nixon, thank you. autonomy's ceo says he's shocked by allegations of mismanagement. they've been forced to take a nearly $9 billion charge because of what it called serious improprieties. lynch says the trouble arose after hp took over the company. >> we've been talking about a massive elephant in the room that wasn't spotted. the reason it wasn't spotted is very simple, it wasn't there. it was done, in their own words, meticulously and great detail. and then they actually ran the company, including doing all of the books for the last four quarters. >> hp shares down 12% yesterday, closing on a ten-year low right now. that is the euro's closing price. >>> still to come later, he's now apologized to the investors for the poor call and says the end for hp is not even sight. >>> also, japan has posted its worst trade deficit in october for more than three decades. exports dropped sharply amid territorial tensions between tokyo and beijing. it indicates the world's third biggest economy i
's entire economy. we can't afford it and we can't afford to leave it intact. so try as they might, remember the last congress republicans passed a lot of bills out of the house of representatives that tore apart obama care. as even the president calls it now. they didn't go anywhere in the senate and meanwhile, alex, after the thanksgiving break, the principles are expected to get back together to begin negotiating in earnest. as you're right the clock is ticking. just a little bit more than one month to go before the nation heads over that fiscal cliff. al alex? >> 38 days and counting. thanks so much. let's go from the white house to the middle east now. palestinians and israelis are keeping a cease-fire alive. but many call the truce extremely fragile. an attempted border breach threatened the calm yesterday. israeli forces shot and killed a palestinian man. he was one of hundreds testing israeli security at the border. nbc's martin fletcher is live for us in tel aviv. good saturday morning to you, martin. can this shooting jeopardize the cease-fire? and then when does the next phase beg
assess what makes consumers spend, and what impact all those purchases have on the economy. >> brown: we have two stories about continuing unrest in the middle east, beginning with the political crisis in egypt. >> suarez: then, in her final report from turkey, margaret warner looks at the growing clout of syria's kurdish minority, and the impact that's having on the other side of the border. >> brown: when does a co-worker count as a supervisor? that question was before the supreme court today in a case about harassment. marcia coyle explains. >> suarez: and we examine new figures from the pew research center showing that young voters played a decisive role reelecting president obama. >> brown: that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. and by the alfred p. sloan foundation. supporting science, technology, and improved economic performance and financial literacy in the 21st century. and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. an
raising wages for retail workers kickstart the economy? one study says it could boost gdp by 15%. i'm not really buying that. when the people behind that report is here to disagree with me. even when they say it is not, it is always about "money." all right, let's take a look at the headlines, fed chairman ben bernanke warning of dire consequences if we go flying over the fiscal cliff, bernanke says failure to make a deal could trigger another recession. he also says the fed does not have the tools needed to stop another downturn. and they're calling it the largest insider trading case ever. sec charging him with conspiracy to commit serious fraud. reporter made $276 million in illegal profits after receiving a tip from a doctor about a new alzheimer's drug. hewlett-packard's taking a dive today in a shocking report of fraud. we will have all the details here in just a moment. but first our top story tonight, the fighting between israel and hamas continues. senator said hillary clinton met with diplomatic leaders in egypt today to hp broker a cease-fire but that did nothing to stop
trying to ruin the holidays and the economy for everybody? >> first up this evening tonight fed chairman ben bernanke gave a warning fix the fiscal cliff or we are headed for a severe recession, so far, no concrete proposals and i have to ask again, are we headed for a stalemate or can we find an economy saving common ground. let's talk. we have abigail disney. we'll have a sudden fiscal cliff? >> i worry about the damage that mighting done in fixing it. you don't think the tax increases that could come at the end of the year and the spending cuts of less 100 build, you don't think those would in deuce a severe recession and everybody on wastreet? >> they are not that big of rate increases so far. welcome to the show and what would you do about it? >> they are proposing letting the bush tax cuts stand for everyone because the top 2%. if you raise them and closing the interest loop hole, fixing the estate tax you come out to $100 trillion in savings. >> serious question, you have a famous name and we welcome you onto the program. do you record that as rich? >> what i regard is irrelevant
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to destroy the economy. no one in their right mind is going to allow that kind of increase to devastate the economy. lou: that's a good point. it's interesting that no one is talking about the fact that individual tax payment, 26% of the bush tax cuts over the past two years, the answer here is this. i just want to see everybody be happy. let me turn to benghazi. there is a palpable sense in washington dc right now. i don't believe the congress has the strength or the tools to actually penetrate the veil of denial and secrecy and opaqueness that is this administration and what it has done. now, when you think this is? >> the attorney general has to do this. lou: can you really see eric holder doing that? saying that we will investigate ourselves? >> if he doesn't do an independent investigation, you have the very people who have floated the idea of prosecuting general petraeus, there are all kinds of things they might do to him. there is all kinds of pressure that can be brought about. lou: are you saying that you don't think, i was speaking earlier with. rinsing, you don't think it's a
on the horizon. that's where we begin this morning. how confident are you about the state of the u.s. economy? what steps are you taking to prepare for the potential impact if the u.s. goes off the fiscal cliff? give us a call this morning. you can also catch up with us on all your favorite social media sites, twitter or facebook. or e-mail us. thismorning to you on wednesday, november 21. we are talking about federal reserve chairman ben bernanke's comments yesterday about the fiscal cliff, and getting your thoughts on bthe u.s. economy. and this headline -- also, in the financial times -- to tell little bit more about ben bernanke's , and sister day we turn to david clarke of "politico," their financial services editor. thanks for joining us. guest: thanks for having me. host: what is making the most waves from his speech? guest: in the past he has warned that congress and the president's path to take care of the fiscal cliff. yesterday he said it is not simply doing it but how they do it, making a point that voters will be looking to see if they can do this in a cooperative manner, whether
. >> it is doing it now with china and japan. you have to of the biggest economies in the world in a nightmare situation that raises the fundamental question and up in in this myth that economics draws people together. part of the title today is "mischief or miscalculation?" during the cold war, you could have 17 different spheres of contact with the soviets and it two blew up, you could still have 15 others. there was a lot of heavy investment in figuring out how to court made, communicate, due to escalation and talk if things got bad. in this era, when i look at the amount of time -- the obama administration more so than the bush administration, when officials meet throughout the region, and the discussion attempt to correlate with china, there seems to be a lot of effort to try to coordinate. jim steinberg was the fourth member of this panel, looking at the island dispute and said, they were shocked and surprised by the level of miscommunication, miss assessment, and the dangers of that between china and japan. it raises the question of whether or not -- i agree. i know china wants respect
, we will ask a business expert what fewer shoppers means for the overall economy. rick: shifting gears now overseas, the hamas terrorist group is accusing israel of breaking the ceasefire rules agreed to only a couple of days ago, two days after a truce was reached along the israel/gaza border. the shooting death of a palestinian man today could threaten the already-fragile agreement. conor powell is live in jerusalem with the very latest. >> reporter: well, rick, given that the level of trust between israel and hamas is so low, expectations for this ceasefire were even lower. but it appears to have passed its first major hurdle. earlier today several hundred palestinians went to the border between gaza and israel, some reportedly there to check on land across the border in israel, others were, no doubt, hamas sympathizers testing the ceasefire. but as israeli trooped told them to back off from the border area, they refused, and israeli troops opens fire killing one palestinian. both israel and hamas accused the other ofhe ceasefire agreement, but neither side took steps to escal
's economy has continued to grow while the rest of europe has slowed. >> that growth is now so minimal that economists say 2013 next year could see a return to recession. still, german businesses shrugging off that possibility. >> business managers are upbeat about their future. >> german business leaders are optimistic that exports will remain strong, and the latest figures back that up. consumer confidence is also surprisingly robust. all the talk of a crisis in the eurozone does not seem to have dented people's desire to shock, but growth overall is beginning to falter -- the talk of a crisis does not seem to have dented people's desire to shop. the eurozone as a whole has fare worse with zero growth at the start of the year and then downhill from there. that has a knock on effect for german companies. so far, though, the german economy is weathering the storm. >> that news sent stocks in germany higher in what has been a bit of a winning streak recently. our correspondent has more from frankfurt. >> traders did not spend much time looking back on the slowdown of the german economy,
obama term in office? the economy, the fiscal cliff talks, the president's priorities in the next four years. our roundtable is here. david brooks of "the new york times." msnbc's reverend al sharpton. former ceo of hewlett-packard carly fiorina >> historian and film maker ken burns. and nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell. and we'll hear from new york congressman, gregory meeks, as we check in on some of the hardest-hit victims of hurricane sandy and see how they offered thanks this weekend while surrounded by destruction. >>> from nbc news in washington, the world's longest-running television program, this is "meet the press." with david gregory. >>> president obama doing his part for the economy over the weekend out holiday shopping as part of small business saturday, picking up several children's book at an independent bookstore in arlington. >>> meanwhile, uncertainty in the middle east. more clashes in egypt over the weekend as police use tear gas this morning to disburse protesters in cairo. i want to start there. we have "new york times" columnist david broo
nations want a five-year extension. they argue major economies may not be able to agree to severe reduction targets over the long-term. japanese delegates say they will not join the extended protocol. they want to continue using something called the clean development mechanism. it allows rich countries to earn carbon off sets by providing nds and technology to poor nations to help them reduce their emissions. >>> the people in charge of the site of the world's worst nuclear accident say they have taken a big step in cleaning it up. workers have raised part of a permanent shelter around a reactor at the nuclear plant in chernobyl. the area around the plant is highly contaminated. the workers raised an arched section that will surround the destroyed unit. the number 4 reactor was covered with a concrete and metal structure after the explosion in 1986. the so-called stone coffin deteriorated and could release radioactive substances. they began believe the new shelter in april to go around it. it is 250 meters wide and 105 meters high. government officials say engineers designed the s
have to give a comprehensive bill. >> our economy right now needs skilled workers, about people who want to come here and we should fix the system that's broken and not only that family friendly and keeps families together and some families have one member of the family come here on a green card and they have to wait several years before they're reunited and this bill corrects that. >> they can't work once they get here, but they can come and be with their families. >> gentlemen, thank you so much, good see you both. >> thank you. >> pope benedict xvi, elevating six new cardinals today. you may remember he elevated cardinals last february, but the new group is made up entirely of non-europeans including one american. and today's choice will help choose his successor. >> and with the crowning of the six new cardinals, appropriate benedict is it putting his seal on the papacy and decades to follow. appointing well over half the men who will vote for his successor. while all are fairly young, the cardinals stand out for what they're not. they're neither european or italian. and the car
brotherhood led egyptian government. it is strangling in an economy that is simply not working. the united states and europe have the trump cards in this. is that an incorrect statement in your judgment? >> yes, because the imf still has already been signed. he has that credit line out there. i think what's going on in egypt is that there is a struggle between -- lou: actually, this deal was reached today. they have not been funded. lou: but the deal is done. acquiescence to judgment and reason. and necessary component. >> as you correctly pointed out that europeans will not put pressure on egypt. he will get his money from the imf. the -- lou: wait a minute. let me interject. i truly believe that it is of fair statement to say, the united states will have its will with the imf and what it does in this instance. am i wrong? >> well, we will see in a couple of weeks. i think the real struggle here is between morrissey and his ideological instincts on the one hand and elements of the egyptian security structure, the military and the intelligence service on the other. despite his best efforts
spain to take the bailout, but of course many things can go wrong including the economy could be even worse than what we just discussed. in that case i think spain would ultimately have to apply. but i don't think they'll do that over the coming weeks. >> all right, ricardo, good to talk to you. thanks for that. don't forget, of course, if you have any thoughts, questions, comments, e-mail us at cnbc.com. it's thanksgiving to u.s. markets, so they're closed, so that means we have a special three hour show for european and asian viewers today. still to come, india's parliament has opened its winter's session for what could be a tough first day back to business for the prime minister. we'll find out what opposition he faces from our correspondent in mumbai. we'll also find out why asian casinos are putting their chips on the table despite slow economic growth in the region. and obama saves cobbler, but many of his turkey friends will end up on the table today. we evaluate the cost of a thanksgiving dinner with a soft commodities expert. all of that and lent more coming up over the cours
at this time, in fact, the president even said a couple of years ago, it harms the economy. we are trying to help the economy. and, so, unless i can be convinced that raising tax rates will be beneficial, then obviously i think there's reason and ground for my position. but, i also believe that we can and must get an agreement, otherwise i think first of all, the markets are going to start reacting. >> chris: we'll talk about that in the next segment, and i think it is a real issue. finally, let's talk about the g.o.p. republicans, i don't have to tell you, had a really rough night on election night. and let's look at the break down of some of the numbers. you lost unmarried women by 36 points, hispanics, by 44 points. young people, by 23 points. does your party need to change, especially, with those groups, on social issues like same sex marriage and immigration reform? >> i think we have to have a bigger tent. no doubt about it. and, obviously we have to do immigration reform. there is no doubt whatsoever that the demographics are not on our side. and, we are going to have to give a muc
economy and how do we get us back to that and, two, how do you solve a problem? >> second big development. a growing number of liberal democrats say they're willing to risk going off the cliff to make sure raising taxes on the wealthy is part of the deal. politico is calling them cliff jumpers. l good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> let me play a couple of clips to start out about the pledge. >> i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> a pledge you sign 20 years ago, 18 years ago, is for that congress. if i were in congress in 1841 i would have supported declaration of war against japan. i won't attack japan today. the world changed and the economic situation is different. >> i am not oblg gate on the pledge. i was just elected. the only thing i am honoring is the oath that i take when i serve when i am sworn in in january. >> chambliss already made a similar statement last week. the question is is this a real softening of positions? does it give them room to make deal. >> two things.
say that the president proposed $1.6 trillion in new revenue? he wants to destroy the economy? come on. who in their right mind will allow that kind of increase to devastate the economy. it will not be hostess going out of business. >> lou: that is a good point and it is interesting, no one is talking about the fact that individual tax payments, taxpayer payments, internal revenue service, receipts from those taxpayers have risen 26% under the bush tax cuts, over the past two years which tells us that the answer here is growth. >> that's right. >> lou: i'm a simple fellow and i'd like to see everybody start talking to each other. let me turn to benghazi, because, the special prosecutor. there is a sense of hopelessness that is palpable in washington, d.c., right now. because, i don't believe the congress feels that it has the strength or the tools to actually penetrate the veil of denial and secrecy and opaqueness that is the administration, when it comes to what it has done. witness the last nine weeks. you are calling for a special prosecutor, and the fellow who has to do that work f
, it could have serious consequences on the economy. >> i want to ask you both to weigh in on this question. kristen, you do the political angle and neil you give me the nuts and bolts. yesterday john boehner wrote an op-ed calling for the health care law to be part of the negotiations, he wrote in part the president's health care law at the massive, expensive, unworkable program when the national debt exceeds the size of our country's entire economy. we can't afford it, and can't afford to leave it intact. is john boehner right? >> no. look, it's a law that does a lot of things with the health care system. it's not predominantly a fiscal issue, in that that when the government does anything, it affects taxes. if you're the president you have no incentive to allow the health care law to be on the table in these negotiations. maybe on the edges there are a few spending programs you're willing to negotiate over. but in terms of the health insurance mandate and exchanges, all the things in this complicated law that passed two years ago, you're really going to draw the line and say, we're not g
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